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protocols/bitswap: Add BitSwap implementation #2632
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Spec: https://github.com/ipfs/specs/blob/master/BITSWAP.md ipfs/specs#269 and ipfs/specs#270
I would have to review the existing implementations before making an informed decision here.
If I am not mistaken that would force IPLD as a dependency onto libp2p. Not a blocker, though something to keep in mind. Also, in case I am not mistaken, Bitswap is significantly simpler and thus a good first protocol for exchanging bytes in libp2p. //CC @aschmahmann as the Bitswap expert. |
269 is the best to use at the moment (270 is for a new version of the Bitswap protocol). Sorry it's not merged into master yet 😬.
Basically I agree with Max here. Bitswap is going to be a simpler protocol to build out, and while many Bitswap consumers end up using IPLD on top of it to create and fetch larger groups of content it's not required as with GraphSync. No reason both couldn't be included down the line though. Some motivating reasons to implement Bitswap first:
Given the 5 Rust implementations of Bitswap you may want to decide what it is that rust-libp2p wants out of a Bitswap implementation? Is it to unify the existing implementation efforts, to have a different opinion on extensibility or how the client and server implementations prioritize who to fetch data from and serve it to, etc? As I mentioned on Discord I suspect it'd be quite useful to have a single codebase that handles the basic mechanics of the protocol for you (e.g. processing the protobuf messages) and then people may have different thoughts on how to orchestrate things like sessions or prioritization. However, maybe perhaps the right abstraction might let people share more code here. Within the go-libp2p-kad-dht code I did a refactor extracting out the protocol message pieces that's been helpful in letting people play around with new client implementations (https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-kad-dht/blob/f0569715b6e50119f425f708ab6673b536725139/pb/protocol_messenger.go#L34). |
I read the specs. We are looking at supporting all versions of bitswap, not just v1.3.0 right? Also, is priority explained anywhere? Of the 5 it seams that rs-ip/rust-ipfs impl. is the most generic. Although I don't think having list of wants and blocks is appropriate. |
Oh cool to see this discussion kicked off from the Discord chat! I think from my perspective, "a single codebase for handling the basic mechanics of the protocol for you" is exactly what we would want out of having this protocol. An abstraction that allows a custom client to easily decide what to send to whom in a way similar how the kad protocol exposes this for responding to provider queries would be quite nice. I think the iroh implementation from @dignifiedquire is already leaning in this direction. |
@SionoiS you raised in the last community call that you would be interested in working on this, supported through a grant 🎉. What would be the timeline on your end? When would you have capacity to work on this? |
@mxinden As soon as my current grant work is done. I'm already ahead of schedule but I'm not sure how long building the website is going to take. The end of this month at the latest I will start and I planned 4 months. So I guess ~ November. OR if it's ok with PL I could work on both at the same time but it's going to take longer. In the Mean time, I would be cool to gather what ppl want to see and don't want for Bitswap. |
I would prefer doing the two in sequence instead of doing them in parallel. Also gives me more time to figure out the administrative side of things. |
Ready to start working on this! Looking at the diff between iroh and rust-ipfs implementation of bitswap. where do we want the libp2p implementation, on a rust-ipfs <-> iroh spectrum. Seams like people don't like bitswap and are building new things. If thing are changing might be good to keep the scope of this project small.
That's the plan for now let me know what you think. |
My 2c are: We definitely want a custom |
So to get decent perf. I need to impl one, ok make sense! Is perf the only reason or is there things you can't do without an ConnectionHandler impl? |
Ok I'll recap the meeting let me know if I got anything wrong. Bitswap is a flawed protocol, no amount of engineering can fix it. A working group has been assembled to build a new protocol. A test plan could be made for go-bitswap <-> rust-bitswap but what would that accomplish? A naive spec-compliant rust-bitswap would not interop well with go-bitswap because of it's idiosyncrasies. A rust-libp2p bitswap implementation that is compatible with go-bitswap would require high maintenance. None of the options seams adequate... notes: https://www.notion.so/Rust-Bitswap-Implementation-s-60e4114cdac243ba9a78875a65511134 |
dang, when you spell it out like that, sounds rough 😅 . I would add the context that this is one team's view after having written an implementation, but I'm on that team, and do hold this view.
it would accomplish at least one thing: It would test our team's assumptions & give a repeatable-ish context for analyzing failures.
fully agreed.
fully agreed. I think the best thing for our community to do is move on, write a new data transfer protocol that has multiple implementations & a proper spec from the start. If folks need go-bitswap interoperability, I'd encourage them to use & contribute to iroh's implementation. We need to maintain this in some capacity for the foreseeable future. |
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We will not implement Bitswap anytime soon. See libp2p#2632 (comment) for rational.
We will not implement Bitswap anytime soon. See #2632 (comment) for rational.
Hi,
Just wanted to get the ball rolling on this. As discussed in Discord.
Some links from a quick search.
https://github.com/rs-ipfs/rust-ipfs/tree/master/bitswap
https://github.com/ipfs-rust/libp2p-bitswap
https://github.com/ChainSafe/libp2p-bitswap/
https://docs.substrate.io/rustdocs/latest/src/sc_network/bitswap.rs.html
https://github.com/n0-computer/iroh/tree/main/iroh-bitswap/src
Drop your own below!
My experience with Bitswap is limited. I had to slightly modify rust-ipfs impl. of it for my Testground uses.
Here's some points I find important;
rust-ipfs impl. did allow for different strategy but was missing a block sent complete event I needed.
Is there official spec written somewhere?
Do we start from scratch or modify one of the existing implementations?
Could we not implement GraphSync instead?
Thanks.
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