How does decentralization / federation work and how to improve it?

[trosel]

https://instances.invidio.us/

How are these different instances supporting each other?

Could implementing more decentralization features help to lighten the load / cost of running an instance?

[elypter]

the most important feature would be to use them to get around geolocks. its annoying that i cannot watch videos in germany that are payed for by the public and work find on youtube if you are in germany but do not work with invidio.us beacause it is running in the us. it would be great if i was automatically redirected to a german instance

[Perflyst]

There is decentralization but no federation. Different instances which do not talk to each other.

decentralization features help to lighten the load / cost of running an instance

The user is responsible for this. And it works quite well already.

but do not work with invidio.us

you look like an advanced user, please stop using invidio.us
if you are from germany, pick a german instance -> help the decentralization and get your videos working

[trosel]

@Perflyst

The user is responsible for this. And it works quite well already.

What do you mean by this? You said there is no communication between instances. So nothing can be done today, right?

[Perflyst]

You can choose an instance. And if you are aware that there is not only invidio.us then please choose any other instance and put not extra load on invidio.us. There are other well working instances.

[trosel]

@Perflyst @omarroth How can we get all of the instances to talk to each other and help share load?

Or rather, which aspect of the server is the most heavy / intensive?

[rboninsegna]

You can choose an instance. And if you are aware that there is not only invidio.us then please choose any other instance and put not extra load on invidio.us. There are other well working instances.

This ought to be listed on the site itself - I only found out right now because I saw for the first time "download is disabled" and started reading tangential issues!

[notpushkin]

In the light of recent events, I think federation (even in simplest form, e. g. using a random participating instance's API instead of one's own) would be a great idea.

[notpushkin]

I think it's still relevant. Any thoughts on how we could tackle this?

[HumanG33k]

About decentralisation stuff you should go to peertube https://joinpeertube.org/
and create a way to duplicate youtube content.
My recipe for user side is :

• export subscribed list.
• import it in custom tool.
• custom tool create account on peertube instance for each account and import is content.
• enjoy it.

(it's in my todo list but no time/money for it now)

[midn1]

Simplest solution for now, at least, would be a client-side solution that periodically switched your domains. Of course, adoption will be little, but it's a start. Doing it server-side with cookies and redirects could be considered too invasive or abusable by the most extreme of us privacy advocates.

[xanoni]

I think my ticket here is related: #2515

[notpushkin]

Let's give it some more thought?