Me and My Katamari Visual Bug Background #6411

haazeGalaxys5US · 2014-06-24T06:10:33Z

Hey guys, so tbis issue has been around since ive been trying the past year. I posted the issue in the forums but maybe this is a better spot to be seen. Im running 9.8 1385 and the problem remains in buffered and unbuffered rendering

Only happens when you are larger when the camera is in tight the glitch does not remain even off in the distance

Im having difficulty getting a log. Logcat apl dods not record anything when i leave and run ppsspp and come back to it. I do not have a computer at the moment either. I am rooted though.

unknownbrackets · 2014-06-24T06:20:00Z

Does that mean #1853 is fixed?

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haazeGalaxys5US · 2014-06-24T06:44:41Z

Actually yes, sorry i having problems signing in that account. So that issue for me turned out to be iso problem probably due to compressing it smaller or something

There is still a bug that "crashes" the game thay still remains for all devices ive tried . After you finish the tutorial and are asked to name your island it just hangs but music is playing but there is no input. You can fast forward and theusic speeds up accordingly but you cannot procede unless you use a save state which are all 100% done and take away from playing

LunaMoo · 2014-06-26T19:10:44Z

That hang can be passed if you change rendering mode to read framebuffers to memory;3

unknownbrackets · 2016-05-21T05:37:39Z

@LunaMoo your EU save works fine in the US version. What's the easiest way for a Katamari n00b to experience this issue? I tried the first couple levels but neither was outside, which I'm guessing is the reason this wasn't evident.

I have some code to probably implement depth download on desktop, although detecting the "right" depth is tricky. I'd also like to try hardcoding depth=0 on texture and see how it looks (which is what mobile may be locked to.)

Would possibly use zero depth when "block transfer" is disabled OR "disable slow effects" is enabled. Though I'm not sure how slow it will be, I don't expect downloading depth to RAM to be a thing GPUs like.

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LunaMoo · 2016-05-21T06:02:50Z

Well I think it only happens in stages where you grow to certain scale, for example you start in the house, when you katamari grows enough you move to the town and it would have the bug already, some stages already starts at higher levels, so for example talk to this cicada

pick "yes" and then "eternal" which removes time limit and you'll start in a stage which has this issue from the start. Might even be exact stage from first screenshot here.

unknownbrackets · 2016-05-21T06:54:29Z

Okay, confirmed (not shocking) that downloading makes it work.

One trick with zero: it's actually (of course) using a CLUT16 here. CLUT=0 is 100%, so reading the texture data as zero would cause the artifacting. We'd want to set the texture as zero instead.

Also, we can't just download at the end of the frame (a la "read framebuffers to memory"), because it will read zero. The game uses the depth, and then right after texturing from it, clears the depth.

It seems mostly doable to detect depth. One thing I think I've seen before that WILL get in the way: turning off depth write and using the depth space as a temporary color buffer / or texture memory. I think it will be enough to prioritize color buffers, hopefully...

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unknownbrackets · 2016-09-19T03:41:24Z

By the way, making depth clears write to memory (as in #8994 with color) makes it solid red. as mentioned here (because it clears to zero, I guess.) I wonder if it'd help artifacts in any other game, though...

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soundyogi · 2017-07-01T23:45:18Z

Hi!

I think I am having this Issue, is it fixed? How could one help maybe :)

Thanks!

m4-used-rollout · 2018-03-08T02:52:21Z

This issue is still happening in Gold v1.5.4 with ULUS10094. When you roll the Katamari large, especially in stages where you start large (like the Cicada stage indicated above) a colored wall creeps into your vision and blocks your view

Shot of real hardware in the same location for comparison

None of the mitigations mentioned above seem to help. Block Transfer is disabled and Disable Slow Effects is enabled. I also tried turning off any texture scaling, but the problem still exists.

A savestate is attached if it will help.
green wall.zip

hrydgard · 2018-03-08T09:22:37Z

Yeah, the game still has serious problems. There are at least two issues. First, it uses the depth buffer as a texture looking up into a palette to do custom fog, which is what you're seeing it fail to do here. PPSSPP does not support that currently, I have a rough implementation in a branch but there were some problems I couldn't explain at the time, should probably give it another shot. Secondly, for window transparency in a few stages it does something similar but textures from a texture map that's black while it really shouldn't be. I dove deep into it a while ago but failed to figure it out...

8v3c · 2019-08-24T16:31:26Z

has anyone found a fix for this?

Panderner · 2020-03-12T09:13:06Z

Here:
recording.ppdmp.zip

Panderner · 2020-04-20T14:42:58Z

Same happens in latest build, they removed framebuffer to memory in version 1.6.0

LunaMoo · 2020-04-20T16:24:02Z

Read framebuffers to memory was only passing a long fixed hang, did nothing to this glitch if not making it worse.

The glitchy effect from here can be removed by my cwcheat workaround ~ https://github.com/LunaMoo/PPSSPP_workarounds

Panderner · 2020-04-21T05:51:20Z

But how the glitchy effects to drawn? It's doesn't present on a real PSP.

unknownbrackets · 2020-04-21T06:41:39Z

It's downloading the depth buffer and using that as a texture. This is entirely separate from what that setting did, which was related to color buffers and is now essentially automatic.

I haven't seen it mentioned here, but software rendering (which will be pretty slow) should render this correctly.

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Panderner · 2020-04-21T08:13:26Z

This how it's looks in software renderer:

righthere · 2020-04-21T09:54:08Z

Read framebuffers to memory was only passing a long fixed hang, did nothing to this glitch if not making it worse.

The glitchy effect from here can be removed by my cwcheat workaround ~ https://github.com/LunaMoo/PPSSPP_workarounds

Thank you :-) I finally have been able to play the game fully with double stick config (remapping to second gamepad stick the cross,square,triagle,circle buttons) and in hd, thanks again!

bassilisk202 · 2020-04-29T23:00:15Z

Hello!

Read framebuffers to memory was only passing a long fixed hang, did nothing to this glitch if not making it worse.

The glitchy effect from here can be removed by my cwcheat workaround ~ https://github.com/LunaMoo/PPSSPP_workarounds

Hello! Downloaded your workaround and followed the instructions and it still showing the glitch. Im currently using PPSSPP v1.9.3

LunaMoo · 2020-04-30T00:15:43Z

Did you imported the cheat then enabled it in the cheat menu like that:

? Make note [Disable] cheat exists to disable the actual hack(for example to check if it's still needed), so don't use it.

Here's a diff without/with the workaround activated:

It completely removes the foggy effect, but it was subtle enough on real PSP that it doesn't really make the game look different

bassilisk202 · 2020-04-30T01:56:56Z

Did you imported the cheat then enabled it in the cheat menu like that:

? Make note [Disable] cheat exists to disable the actual hack(for example to check if it's still needed), so don't use it.

Here's a diff without/with the workaround activated:

It completely removes the foggy effect, but it was subtle enough on real PSP that it doesn't really make the game look different

Ok got. It so happens that the disable cheat option was checked and i ddint noticed, my bad. Thanks for the workaround! Really appreciate it :)

Instandhaltung · 2020-05-16T02:40:46Z

Did you imported the cheat then enabled it in the cheat menu like that:

? Make note [Disable] cheat exists to disable the actual hack(for example to check if it's still needed), so don't use it.

Here's a diff without/with the workaround activated:

It completely removes the foggy effect, but it was subtle enough on real PSP that it doesn't really make the game look different

Hey! For me, the cheat does crash the emulator on ppsspp (newest 1.9.3 build) on Switch. The cheats for Valkyria Chronicles do crash as well, so maybe I might do something wrong. Are there any settings that have to be enabled or disabled for this to work?

LunaMoo · 2020-05-16T06:58:46Z

I have no idea about switch, sorry, but the port to that platform seems to still be WIP and unfinished. Maybe cheats just doesn't work there, or something's wrong with jit invalidation as cheats which modify the game code requires it.

Instandhaltung · 2020-05-16T13:33:42Z

I have no idea about switch, sorry, but the port to that platform seems to still be WIP and unfinished. Maybe cheats just doesn't work there, or something's wrong with jit invalidation as cheats which modify the game code requires it.

Thanks for the answer!

hrydgard · 2020-08-31T09:18:55Z

~~Woops, that got broken again in #13355 . Will fix again soon.~~ EDIT: Fixed.

This will not be fixable with D3D9 and older OpenGL devices, but I hope to get in fixes for D3D11 and OpenGL 3.0 before v1.11 release.

Panderner · 2020-10-19T01:19:57Z

The last one is OpenGL ES 3.0+. but why it's not fixable on GLES2 and D3D9 Devices?

…now. Need to figure out what to do about other Z mappings. Helps #6411 for OpenGL on desktop primarily, and certain other games affected by #13256 are likely working too like the fog in Harry Potter.

Panderner · 2021-07-10T14:42:34Z

After #14042 Here's a comparison for my PC and my android phone:

Windows PC:

Android Phone:

All versions tested are using latest build.

hrydgard · 2021-07-10T14:48:13Z

Yeah, that fix isn't working for OpenGL on Android, that's known unfortunately :(

DerGefallene · 2022-09-13T03:01:09Z

I'm still experiencing this on the latest PPSSPP version and the EU Version of Me & My Katamari. I tried switching to Vulkan but this still occurs and since the cheat file only seems to work on the US and JP version is there anything I can do?

Panderner · 2022-09-13T03:54:11Z

@DerGefallene what device are you using?

DerGefallene · 2022-09-13T04:03:41Z

Just my Windows PC

Panderner · 2022-09-13T05:49:07Z

Just my Windows PC

@DerGefallene PC specs?

hrydgard · 2022-09-13T07:45:55Z

That's extremely weird, this should work on any Vulkan device. What GPU do you have? And are you really running a fresh-enough PPSSPP version?

DerGefallene · 2022-09-13T11:44:25Z

Just my Windows PC

@DerGefallene PC specs?

Windows 10 21H2
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super
32GB 3200 Mhz RAM

That's extremely weird, this should work on any Vulkan device. What GPU do you have? And are you really running a fresh-enough PPSSPP version?

My PPSSPP version is always updating itself so I figured it would be the latest version. I have been using it for some years tho so maybe I should've tried to manually update it. At first I had been using D3D11 and the above visual bug occured and when I switched to Vulkan the slightly transparent texture becomes completely solid so after reaching a certain height I can basically only see a colored texture around my Katamari and nothing else

Panderner · 2022-09-13T11:46:12Z

Are you using latest build?

DerGefallene · 2022-09-13T12:29:28Z

Are you using latest build?

That was the issue. Like I said I always thought since PPSSPP was constantly updating itself that it would be up to date. Turns out my PPSSPP version was 1.10.3. Now I've downloaded 1.13.2 and there it is fixed. I tried copying my 1.10.3 PPSSPP savestate of a game level where the bug occured and it also occurs there. But if I load up the game normally on 1.13.2 then the bug doesn't occur.
So good to know that manually updating your emulators from time to time is necessary as well haha

hrydgard · 2022-09-13T12:41:59Z

It's not actually updating itself at all :)

Closing.

ghost · 2022-09-13T12:48:58Z

This should be added to v1.4.0 milestones.

OpenGL

v1.13.2

1.13.2-944

hrydgard · 2022-09-13T12:56:32Z

Well, the main fix was long ago, I just extended it to work with OpenGL ES, I think...

hrydgard mentioned this issue Jun 24, 2014

M&M Katamari (freeze booting on android, playable on pc) #1853

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LunaMoo mentioned this issue Jun 26, 2014

Games that still need "Framebuffer to memory" #6261

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Me And My Katamari - missing Katamari in hand, can't pass rename screen #7695

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Me & My Katamari Fog/Draw Distance coloured solid plane/pixel garbage #8721

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Me and My Katamari, PPSSPP Android Graphical Bug #11459

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hrydgard added the GE emulation Backend-independent GPU issues label Aug 6, 2020

hrydgard added a commit that referenced this issue Oct 18, 2020

D3D11: Implement depth texturing. Fixes, for D3D11, #6411.

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D3D11 depth texture support #13556

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hrydgard modified the milestones: v1.11.0, v1.12.0 Dec 19, 2020

hrydgard mentioned this issue Jan 31, 2021

Implement basic depth texturing for OpenGL #14042

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hrydgard modified the milestones: v1.12.0, v1.13.0, Future Aug 23, 2021

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Me and My Katamari Visual Bug Background #6411

Me and My Katamari Visual Bug Background #6411

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