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Quarter only rendered as point? #4722

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BertMule opened this issue Oct 29, 2022 · 3 comments
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Quarter only rendered as point? #4722

BertMule opened this issue Oct 29, 2022 · 3 comments

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@BertMule
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Despite issue #798 stated to be solved, I am still puzzled whether it totally works.

Currently I do get rendering as a point. But only at lesser zoom levels (bigger scales), which caused confusion at first.

As an area it did not turn up. In my understanding from documentation it should.

Both forms are still present in Jeugddorp .

I also experimented with boundaries. I don't think it turned up. But it is not what I want to start with.

Thanks.

@danieldegroot2
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For minor places, only nodes are rendered on Carto (other renderers may differ).
(In SELECT above, "way" is the term which is continuously used when getting an object's geometry, or its coordinates in case of a point.)

As mentioned on the wiki page for place=quarter, nodes are easier for rendering and routing purposes as

  • they require less complicated calculations for finding their (center) position.
  • it's easier to have all the relevant tags (i.e. international names) on just the node.

(the section "Used on these elements" on the wiki only indicates what are valid ways to map, not what is rendered by anyone. When hovering over the icons, you'll also see a hover text "may be used on ..." or "should not be used on ..." for each of them.)

See also #103 (comment) and below. Sidenote: label placement for small areas is not optimal currently.

@BertMule
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BertMule commented Nov 1, 2022

So in fact they ARE only rendered as point.
I will remove the one on area.
Thanks for the clarification.

I wish definition of tags was aligned with rendering, at least in Carto.
So if it is applicable for both a point and an area, then it is also rendered on both .
If a tag is defined, then it is paired with some rendering, even if it is just generic.
That would prevent endless confusion, questions, discussions, and frustration.

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@joshinils
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What about place-areas that have no label-node? What about place=neighborhood|city_block|plot which may be very small?
I don't understand why mapping it as a place does not render the name, opposed to a named landuse=* where it does.

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