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Matrix and IRC #62

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ShalokShalom opened this issue Jan 12, 2018 · 14 comments
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Matrix and IRC #62

ShalokShalom opened this issue Jan 12, 2018 · 14 comments

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@ShalokShalom
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IRC and Matrix is available as well - reflect that in the homepage.

@strk
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strk commented Jan 12, 2018

Agreed. See also a previous attempt at this in #56 - that one replaced discord with matrix, maybe adding matrix and IRC would have wider acceptance

@ShalokShalom
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For your information: Konversation 2.0 includes support for both, Matrix and IRC;

https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Konvi2x

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lunny commented Jan 12, 2018

Currently, discord is still official chat channels. Why changed to others?

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ShalokShalom commented Jan 12, 2018

Lets ask the user base.

I see 692 users in the IRC room, nearly all of them marked with a (m) for Matrix.
And now lets look into the Discord room: 52 users.

I think that speaks a clear language.

In my humble opinion:

The registration process in Discord is a pain, the whole interface is cluttered and filled with unnecessary stuff, plus the huge load of self-promotion that it puts in my way until I came from the simple
"I like to ask one quick question" through an adventure of distraction into the actual room where not even a fractional part of the community sits, while that room is, in fact, the only promoted one.

Plus, it's non-free.

That this is even a question, wonders me.

The goal of Gitea is to create an open source alternative to Github.

So, to use an alternative to other non-free solutions seems legit.

The community has already decided, does this not get accepted?

@lunny
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lunny commented Jan 13, 2018

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Discord has 942 members but we only show online users.

@ShalokShalom
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Matrix shows online members or offline?

Many people who once logged in and never come back might count more as a negative argument.

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lafriks commented Jan 13, 2018

@ShalokShalom matrix shows all users, also offline. That's one of the problem of it that for room with so many users it's not even possible to see users that are online... (or could be that currently no users in matrix are online at all)

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ShalokShalom commented Jan 13, 2018

Fine, I see the point.

None the less, I prefer the free choice.

@lafriks
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lafriks commented Jan 13, 2018

Of free choices I would prefer mattermost but we would need to host it ourself then

@ShalokShalom
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Well, I mean a free choice among those who are available. Currently, two are hidden and one is promoted.
These two are FOSS, the other one not. For a FOSS project, this seems somewhat obscure.

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lunny commented Jun 4, 2018

Maybe we should use mattermost to do this in future.

@strk
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strk commented Jun 4, 2018 via email

@ShalokShalom
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Well, Matrix is a bit more decentralized, therefore is Mattermost really well written, from what I hear. Your choice, open another issue maybe?

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lafriks commented Jun 6, 2018

But matrix lacks some features like private rooms

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