diff --git a/CHANGELOG.md b/CHANGELOG.md
index c68cb4a3362..9d322dac44e 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 
 ## [next]
 
+- fix(): avoid resetting Group transform by default [#9525](https://github.com/fabricjs/fabric.js/pull/9525)
 - refactor(): Change how LayoutManager handles restoring groups [#9522](https://github.com/fabricjs/fabric.js/pull/9522)
 - fix(BaseConfiguration): set `devicePixelRatio` from window [#9470](https://github.com/fabricjs/fabric.js/pull/9470)
 - fix(): bubble dirty flag for group only when true [#9540](https://github.com/fabricjs/fabric.js/pull/9540)
diff --git a/src/LayoutManager/LayoutManager.spec.ts b/src/LayoutManager/LayoutManager.spec.ts
index 4209cfa2fb8..1fd2321a26e 100644
--- a/src/LayoutManager/LayoutManager.spec.ts
+++ b/src/LayoutManager/LayoutManager.spec.ts
@@ -474,10 +474,10 @@ describe('Layout Manager', () => {
         const canvasFire = jest.fn();
         target.canvas = { fire: canvasFire };
 
-        const shouldResetTransform = jest
-          .spyOn(manager.strategy, 'shouldResetTransform')
+        const onAfterLayout = jest
+          .spyOn(manager.strategy, 'onAfterLayout')
           .mockImplementation(() => {
-            lifecycle.push(shouldResetTransform);
+            lifecycle.push(onAfterLayout);
           });
 
         const context: StrictLayoutContext = {
@@ -500,11 +500,11 @@ describe('Layout Manager', () => {
         manager['onAfterLayout'](context, layoutResult);
 
         expect(lifecycle).toEqual([
-          shouldResetTransform,
+          onAfterLayout,
           targetFire,
           ...(bubbles ? [parentPerformLayout] : []),
         ]);
-        expect(shouldResetTransform).toBeCalledWith(context);
+        expect(onAfterLayout).toBeCalledWith(context);
         expect(targetFire).toBeCalledWith('layout:after', {
           context,
           result: layoutResult,
@@ -526,24 +526,21 @@ describe('Layout Manager', () => {
       }
     );
 
-    test.each([true, false])('reset target transform %s', (reset) => {
-      const targets = [new Group([new FabricObject()]), new FabricObject()];
-      const target = new Group(targets);
+    test.each([
+      { strategy: new FitContentLayout(), shouldReset: true },
+      { strategy: new FixedLayout(), shouldReset: false },
+    ])('reset target transform %s', ({ strategy, shouldReset }) => {
+      const target = new Group([]);
       target.left = 50;
 
-      const manager = new LayoutManager();
-      jest
-        .spyOn(manager.strategy, 'shouldResetTransform')
-        .mockImplementation(() => {
-          return reset;
-        });
+      const manager = new LayoutManager(strategy);
 
       const context: StrictLayoutContext = {
         bubbles: true,
         strategy: manager.strategy,
         type: LAYOUT_TYPE_REMOVED,
         target,
-        targets,
+        targets: [],
         prevStrategy: undefined,
         stopPropagation() {
           this.bubbles = false;
@@ -551,7 +548,7 @@ describe('Layout Manager', () => {
       };
       manager['onAfterLayout'](context);
 
-      expect(target.left).toBe(reset ? 0 : 50);
+      expect(target.left).toBe(shouldReset ? 0 : 50);
     });
 
     test('bubbling', () => {
diff --git a/src/LayoutManager/LayoutManager.ts b/src/LayoutManager/LayoutManager.ts
index c2de920f0b1..0c2bbf3b0f3 100644
--- a/src/LayoutManager/LayoutManager.ts
+++ b/src/LayoutManager/LayoutManager.ts
@@ -4,7 +4,6 @@ import { CENTER, iMatrix } from '../constants';
 import type { Group } from '../shapes/Group';
 import type { FabricObject } from '../shapes/Object/FabricObject';
 import { invertTransform } from '../util/misc/matrix';
-import { resetObjectTransform } from '../util/misc/objectTransforms';
 import { resolveOrigin } from '../util/misc/resolveOrigin';
 import { FitContentLayout } from './LayoutStrategies/FitContentLayout';
 import type { LayoutStrategy } from './LayoutStrategies/LayoutStrategy';
@@ -101,8 +100,11 @@ export class LayoutManager {
   }
 
   protected onBeforeLayout(context: StrictLayoutContext) {
-    const { target } = context;
+    const { target, strategy } = context;
     const { canvas } = target;
+
+    strategy.onBeforeLayout(context);
+
     // handle layout triggers subscription
     if (
       // subscribe only if instance is the target's `layoutManager`
@@ -253,11 +255,7 @@ export class LayoutManager {
       ...bubblingContext
     } = context;
     const { canvas } = target;
-    if (strategy.shouldResetTransform(context)) {
-      resetObjectTransform(target);
-      target.left = 0;
-      target.top = 0;
-    }
+    strategy.onAfterLayout(context);
 
     //  fire layout event (event will fire only for layouts after initialization layout)
     target.fire('layout:after', {
diff --git a/src/LayoutManager/LayoutStrategies/FitContentLayout.ts b/src/LayoutManager/LayoutStrategies/FitContentLayout.ts
index f90d443684e..d2569950b14 100644
--- a/src/LayoutManager/LayoutStrategies/FitContentLayout.ts
+++ b/src/LayoutManager/LayoutStrategies/FitContentLayout.ts
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+import { resetObjectTransform } from '../../util/misc/objectTransforms';
 import type { StrictLayoutContext } from '../types';
 import { LayoutStrategy } from './LayoutStrategy';
 
@@ -15,4 +16,12 @@ export class FitContentLayout extends LayoutStrategy {
   shouldPerformLayout(context: StrictLayoutContext) {
     return true;
   }
+
+  onAfterLayout({ target }: StrictLayoutContext): void {
+    if (target.size() === 0) {
+      resetObjectTransform(target);
+      target.left = 0;
+      target.top = 0;
+    }
+  }
 }
diff --git a/src/LayoutManager/LayoutStrategies/LayoutStrategy.ts b/src/LayoutManager/LayoutStrategies/LayoutStrategy.ts
index a7bb9bf0e95..f79947e8d47 100644
--- a/src/LayoutManager/LayoutStrategies/LayoutStrategy.ts
+++ b/src/LayoutManager/LayoutStrategies/LayoutStrategy.ts
@@ -61,11 +61,20 @@ export abstract class LayoutStrategy {
     return result.size;
   }
 
+  /**
+   * called from the `onBeforeLayout` hook
+   */
+  // eslint-disable-next-line @typescript-eslint/no-unused-vars
+  onBeforeLayout(context: StrictLayoutContext) {
+    // Noop
+  }
+
   /**
    * called from the `onAfterLayout` hook
    */
-  shouldResetTransform(context: StrictLayoutContext) {
-    return context.target.size() === 0;
+  // eslint-disable-next-line @typescript-eslint/no-unused-vars
+  onAfterLayout(context: StrictLayoutContext) {
+    // Noop
   }
 
   /**