Create DataView before having an index (cannot be created with no backing index)

[zez3]

Create Dataview without having an backing index

When we configure a new policy with a new integration in Fleet we usually also create a new DataView.
It might be that the data has not yet started to be ingested so no index is yet created. This prevents us from creating a new DataView.

Please implement/allow the DataView creation before the index exists

[elasticmachine]

Pinging @elastic/kibana-data-discovery (Team:DataDiscovery)

[kertal]

This should be possible by using the DataView API using the allowNoIndex flag https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/data-views-api-create.html
Or do you mean in the Kibana Management UI?

[zez3]

Or do you mean in the Kibana Management UI

I do

[kertal]

Wdyt @mattkime
@zez3 using the DataView API ain't an option for this? (because there you can create data views without existing indices)

[zez3]

Wdyt @mattkime @zez3 using the DataView API ain't an option for this? (because there you can create data views without existing indices)

Hey @kertal
That is indeed the workaround

[kertal]

@zez3 but for your use case you'd prefer to create in there User Interface, or is the API solution sufficient? thx!

[zez3]

@kertal from my point of view it's ok but my users/tenants are not all knowledgeable. So for them it might be better to stick with the UI. A simple toggle button for allowNoIndex should fix this.

Thank you

[mattkime]

This is certainly something we could do, but we should figure out the best UI for doing so.

[kertal]

Closing this because it's not planned to be resolved in the foreseeable future. It will be tracked in our Icebox and will be re-opened if our priorities change. Feel free to re-open if you think it should be melted sooner.