Nordpool changing their portal, will this integration work in 2024?

[large]

I believe they are shutting down their old system 01.01.2024 and replace it with https://data.nordpoolgroup.com

Anyone looked into this?

[Hellowlol]

No, this is new information for me. Where did you read this?

[large]

That is probably what is going to happen: https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/en/services/power-market-data-services/dataportal-launch-update/

Since the old data portal is what you see in their homepage today, it will probably be replaced by this new one.
Making the API that this integration (and many others) fetch data from offline/disable in 2024.

Making a grabber using "Angular" and a web-view is a whole other ball game.

[zagor]

Note that this is not just a system change, they are also introducing data access fees starting at €800/year:

https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/en/services/power-market-data-services/dataportalregistration/

[large]

We only need access to the exchange rates, because data is available at Entso-E.

[zagor]

Unfortunately ENTSO-E requires that every person to access their API requests a separate API key by emailing them. It takes a number of working days for them to manually(!) process each request. That is not a great experience for HomeAssistant end-users.

I found a site that republishes (some of) the ENTSO-E data without any login requirements, and with exchange rate handled: https://www.elprisetjustnu.se/api/

Unfortunately they publish a separate api for each geographical area, and don't seem to have apis for all areas. I'll email them and see if they are interested in publishing everything in a single place.

[zagor]

Come to think of it, they do publish static files for each of the nordic countries, which I guess covers the main targets for this integration. So we could perhaps just use these directly. Example links:

• https://www.elprisetjustnu.se/api/v1/prices/2023/12-30_SE1.json
• https://www.hvakosterstrommen.no/api/v1/prices/2023/12-30_NO5.json
• https://www.elprisenligenu.dk/api/v1/prices/2023/12-30_DK2.json
• https://www.sahkonhintatanaan.fi/api/v1/prices/2023/12-30.json

[jkaberg]

I'd just like to point out this resource aswell: https://spot.56k.guru/homeassistant -> https://github.com/Hexagon/spotweb (also based on ENTSO-e)

and https://www.strompriser.no/artikler/api-for-strompriser

[ISO-B]

Just created account to ENTSO-e and requested API access by sending email. Received API token in 20 minutes. I agree that having to request API access by email is not most end-user friendly solution, but if that guarantees reliable access to data I would be ready to do it. Also it wouldn't be probably too hard to give user option to use ENTSO-e or some other service, like those that @zagor mentioned, as long as format is same.

[LAPDragnet]

According to a source at Nordpool the used API is already deprecated and could stop working at any time.

[corove]

Has anyone found a new way to get these data? I mean, Nordpool is constantly crashing and i need to make new API connections all the time. Would be nice to continue using cost controlled automation both in Node Red and in HA generally, but if NordPool is cutting their free API, we need a good solution soon. :-)

[jkaberg]

Has anyone found a new way to get these data? I mean, Nordpool is constantly crashing and i need to make new API connections all the time. Would be nice to continue using cost controlled automation both in Node Red and in HA generally, but if NordPool is cutting their free API, we need a good solution soon. :-)

https://github.com/JaccoR/hass-entso-e

[trollkarlen]

I think it died for me yesterday :(
I will look in to getting it from the open sources but still in the same format as this component:

https://www.elprisetjustnu.se/api/v1/prices/2023/12-30_SE1.json
https://www.hvakosterstrommen.no/api/v1/prices/2023/12-30_NO5.json
https://www.elprisenligenu.dk/api/v1/prices/2023/12-30_DK2.json
https://www.sahkonhintatanaan.fi/api/v1/prices/2023/12-30.json

[LAPDragnet]

I got a new release of Nordpool, 0.0.15, on Sunday via HACS. Installed it on Monday morning and it works fine:
https://github.com/custom-components/nordpool/releases
It has a new API integration:
#413

[ISO-B]

I can also confirm that 0.0.15 is working fine.

[LAPDragnet]

The new 0.0.15 version works very good for me too but one slight annoyance/quirk is still there although I not sure if it is by design from Nordpool ;-)
When the daily average is negative (as today Monday in SE3) and the price for the current hour is negative the value of "price_percent_to_average" gets strange. Right now the price is -0.11, the average is -1.13 and "price_percent_to_average" is 0.0975. To me that could be -1.13/-0.11 = 10.2 instead.
A minor issue though :-)