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3p game mode for when there are not that many players on site #1760

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realDerekTan opened this issue Nov 25, 2020 · 12 comments
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3p game mode for when there are not that many players on site #1760

realDerekTan opened this issue Nov 25, 2020 · 12 comments
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@realDerekTan
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3 player game

  • 2 liberals, 1 Hitty
  • 3 blues to win for libs, 4 reds to win for fasc
  • HZ begins after 3rd R is played
  • 3rd R unlocks execution power (one bullet on 3rd red policy + enter HZ)

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@Lord-Zuko
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there are a few complaints I have & some weaknesses w/this:

  1. libs gain a much higher wr as it is a 50% hitty shot, much higher than 5p, 6p, 7p, 8p, 9p, and 10p which is about a 25% hitty shot, 20% hitty shot, 16.67% hitty shot, 14.3% hitty shot, 12.5% hitty shot, and 11.1% hitty shot respectively.
  2. hitler's only wincon is by being able to get a gun through either extreme deckfuck or a lib shooting another lib
  3. hitler is of course, unable to gain a fascist majority unlike the other odd-player games
  4. deck size should also be decreased if you plan on having it so 3 blues needed for a win
  5. hitty has to do the work of a fasc as well and essentially has to do a hard carry each time due to lack of backup

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Vigasaurus commented Nov 28, 2020

  1. libs gain a much higher wr as it is a 50% hitty shot, much higher than 5p, 6p, 7p, 8p, 9p, and 10p which is about a 25% hitty shot, 20% hitty shot, 16.67% hitty shot, 14.3% hitty shot, 12.5% hitty shot, and 11.1% hitty shot respectively.

But failing the 50% is effectively an instant loss, so it's realistically balanced

  1. hitler's only wincon is by being able to get a gun through either extreme deckfuck or a lib shooting another lib

Yeah, and? What the alternative for a 5p, for example?

  1. hitler is of course, unable to gain a fascist majority unlike the other odd-player games

The assumption is that in a 1v1 situation it's as good as a fascist win given deck conditions.

  1. deck size should also be decreased if you plan on having it so 3 blues needed for a win

I don't think that 3 blues to win is realistic, it could be left for custom games to compensate.

  1. hitty has to do the work of a fasc as well and essentially has to do a hard carry each time due to lack of backup

That's part of the fun, I'd imagine.

Not to mention, this game mode would likely be forced casual to start anyways - it could potentially come out of that if it appears balanced, but balance issues aren't the highest concern right now.

@Lord-Zuko
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  1. nahw
  2. fasc maj baybee that shits fun
  3. nah
  4. nahw
  5. heck nahw

@realDerekTan
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Do you think that this gamemode is somewhat feasible to be implemented as a custom game in the near future?

It shouldn't take too long to code, only to change a few game variables, win conditions, and deck count.

@Lord-Zuko
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bully @Vigasaurus until he makes it lol

@Vigasaurus
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You know it's funny, people often say "it shouldn't take so long to code", but those are the same people stuck waiting for features for the longest time :)

@Vigasaurus
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I'd invite you to make a PR though :D

Low code solutions are always really easy to review ;) and if it is as low code as you say, it should be easy, right?

@Lord-Zuko
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lmao oof

@realDerekTan
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I'm not sure how to add a specific custom game feature with these variables in place.

Perhaps a more experienced developer should handle this, I imagine it would take less than 20 minutes for them.

Only things to change:

  1. Add a new game mode under the "create game" menu
  2. Change the game variables (1 hitty, 2 liberals)
  3. Upload a new board with the 3p gameplay protocol

@Vigasaurus
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Vigasaurus commented Nov 29, 2020

[Create, Verify Placement of, and] upload a new board

20 Minutes

@Lord-Zuko
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bonus points awarded for lower quality photoshops done in mspaint

@jussisaurio
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Perhaps a more experienced developer should handle this, I imagine it would take less than 20 minutes for them.

I'm just here to lmao at this

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