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China CNY / BTC Market Maker Bounty 1000 $BSQ #135

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flix1 opened this issue May 24, 2019 · 30 comments
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China CNY / BTC Market Maker Bounty 1000 $BSQ #135

flix1 opened this issue May 24, 2019 · 30 comments

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flix1 commented May 24, 2019

China CNY / BTC Market Maker Bounty

To claim this bounty the contributor must make a market in Bisq CNY/BTC for 1 month.
https://bisq.network/markets/?currency=btc_cny

This will involve:

  1. Keeping at least 2 BUY and 2 SELL offers live during 1 month.

  2. Attracting other traders to the market through marketing, communication, social media...

  3. Completing at least 5 trades.

  4. Report with feedback here on the details of the trades (payment method used, problems encountered, suggestions for improvement, fees paid, time it took to complete the trade).

  5. Attend at least 1 live Bisq Growth call to answer questions and provide feedback on the experience.

Bounty: 1000 $BSQ

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flix1 commented May 31, 2019

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It looks like https://bisq.network/ is once again blocked by the Great Firewall of China. I guess that you can still work around it with a VPN... but better to put this idea on hold for the time being.

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flix1 commented Jul 19, 2019

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We've had some activity in China over the past few days.

The legal situation of Bitcoin in China has also had positive developments recently:
https://twitter.com/DoveyWan/status/1151944343999008768

Apparently a property dispute case in a Chinese court has resulted in a verdict which declares Bitcoin akin to a commodity and therefore legally protected property.

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wiz commented Jul 28, 2019

Since when does Bisq care about the "legal standing" of Bitcoin in some country? IMO the entire purpose of Bisq is to not have to care what local government thinks/says/does about Bitcoin. The relevant issue at hand is that Tor, GitHub, and Bisq's domain name are all blocked in China, so Bisq is essentially censored there. IMO we should implement Tor bridges or other necessary infrastructure to circumvent China's censorship of Bisq before worrying about liquidity problems or offering any bounties for this.

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flix1 commented Jul 29, 2019

IMO the entire purpose of Bisq is to not have to care what local government thinks/says/does about Bitcoin.

Agreed.

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flix1 commented Aug 29, 2019

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Some offers still live... but no trades.

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flix1 commented Nov 11, 2019

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flix1 commented Nov 20, 2019

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There's now 2 different buyers and 3 offers in CNY. Still no sellers... but I get the feeling this market is very close to starting up.

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flix1 commented Nov 22, 2019

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And we finally have a spread in China!
Buyers and sellers.

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wdljt commented Nov 22, 2019

If the bisq needs,I can keep 2 or 3 seller and buyer.

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flix1 commented Jan 7, 2020

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1st trade of the year in CNY!

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It also looks like Alipay and WeChatPay are going after the tourist market with international versions... this could open up opportunities for CNY/BTC on Bisq.

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flix1 commented Jan 13, 2020

Something is moving in China!

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China CNY / BTC Market Maker Bounty

To claim this bounty the contributor must make a market in Bisq CNY/BTC for 1 month.
https://bisq.network/markets/?currency=btc_cny

This will involve:

  1. Keeping at least 2 BUY and 2 SELL offers live during 1 month.
  2. Attracting other traders to the market through marketing, communication, social media...
  3. Completing at least 5 trades.
  4. Report with feedback here on the details of the trades (payment method used, problems encountered, suggestions for improvement, fees paid, time it took to complete the trade).
  5. Attend at least 1 live Bisq Growth call to answer questions and provide feedback on the experience.

Bounty: 1000 $BSQ

Hi,I would like to take part in this issue. So how can I star with? And who should I talk with? Thx

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flix1 commented Jan 13, 2020

Hi @RadishXN just writing here saying that you intend to claim the bounty is enough to start with.

The 5 conditions are clear. Just start being a market maker. If you want examples of previously claimed similar bounties take a look at #138 and #160

After you have been a market maker for 1 month and have fulfilled the 5 conditions, write here detailing your activity and if everyone is satisfied you will be instructed to create a compensation request and claim the bounty.

At worst, if the result is unsatisfactory, you will be asked to do some more. But it should not be so difficult to keep 4 orders live for 1 month and complete 5 trades.

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Hi @RadishXN just writing here saying that you intend to claim the bounty is enough to start with.

The 5 conditions are clear. Just start being a market maker. If you want examples of previously claimed similar bounties take a look at #138 and #160

After you have been a market maker for 1 month and have fulfilled the 5 conditions, write here detailing your activity and if everyone is satisfied you will be instructed to create a compensation request and claim the bounty.

At worst, if the result is unsatisfactory, you will be asked to do some more. But it should not be so difficult to keep 4 orders live for 1 month and complete 5 trades.

Thanks again, I have already started my work. I would like to report as soon as the first deal happening.

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flix1 commented Jan 15, 2020

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Nice to see those offers live @RadishXN

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Nice to see those offers live @RadishXN
Thanks, now I am waiting for someone to purchase them.

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flix1 commented Jan 29, 2020

@RadishXN remember that it helps to communicate... if you don't get the word out about Bisq, nobody will know that your offers are there.

A good place to start might be in Chinese Bitcoin OTC chats... you don't need much. Just a couple of buyers/sellers over the next month will get you there. A good example to follow would be what was done with the JPY bounty. #138

Also feel free to ask for help. if something does not work or could be changed to help you... now is the time to try it.

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@RadishXN remember that it helps to communicate... if you don't get the word out about Bisq, nobody will know that your offers are there.

A good place to start might be in Chinese Bitcoin OTC chats... you don't need much. Just a couple of buyers/sellers over the next month will get you there. A good example to follow would be what was done with the JPY bounty. #138

Also feel free to ask for help. if something does not work or could be changed to help you... now is the time to try it.

Thanks for your asking. In last few days,it's Chinese new year. And after that, it will be a great time to advertise bsq. So I have already found some way to advertise it. So I will try my best to do it. I believe there will be some purchase soon. And thanks again for your asking.

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flix1 commented Feb 5, 2020

No offers on BTC/CNY since Feb 2 2020.
https://bisq.network/markets/?currency=btc_cny

This coincides with new Chinese financial controls and market restrictions. There is some discussion on keybase about how to bypass restrictions.

I suppose it's only fair to consider this bounty paused until the problem is solved.

I consider this market more important than ever as a test of Bisq's censorship resistance. If people can trade BTC on Bisq despite the GFW... then Bisq really is antifragile.

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mys67 commented Feb 6, 2020

Just so you guys know, the Chinese love red. Their stock market shows gains as red, not green.
I would recommend inverting your color scheme, when the language is set to Chinese.
Also, there is a large Monero mining community there. If you had xmr as a base pair you would probably have more volume, as those guys want to convert their XMR back into CNY after mining. But, they may want to convert CNY if their country continues to pump money into their market.
Another insight, there are a lot of Chinese in the United States with access to CNY and obviously access to tor without configuring a tor relay. Just some food for thought.

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flix1 commented Feb 10, 2020

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Offers are back on CNY/BTC!

Apparently the bounty hunters found a workaround to bypass the blockade.

Bounty is back on!

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Offers are back on CNY/BTC!

Apparently the bounty hunters found a workaround to bypass the blockade.

Bounty is back on!

Nice to hear that, now I carry on the Bounty. And try to get more people to bsq.

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flix1 commented Feb 13, 2020

Feb 13th 2020.

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RadishXN commented Feb 13, 2020

I claim this bounty.

  1. Keeping at least 2 BUY and 2 SELL offers live during 1 month.

I have keep 2 BUY and 2 SELL alive. And so far I still keep 2 BUY and 2 SELL alive.

  1. Attracting other traders to the market through marketing, communication, social media...
  1. I have done some introduction about what is bisq. And do some research about Bisq and Chinese BTC market.Then I found that China have a wide market that need we to active it, which means maybe more AD will be a choice. Some people need this kind of market to hide thier ID but they can't found this right APP.

  2. I have get some users from telegram. And Chinese would like to do some purchase avioding providing their ture ID on telegram.It's a huge market but so few of them heard about Bisq making this app can't take it advantage.

  3. Alilpay and wechat pay take a huge market of Chinese pay,but that doesn't mean Bisq don't have chance. Instead some Chinese are realize the importance of hiding their ID. So I believe Chinese market will grow prosperous soon.

  1. Completing at least 5 trades.

As the picture said, I have done 6 offers,and because my introduce,some chinese for the first time know the Bisq and would like to take part in it.
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  1. Report with feedback here on the details of the trades (payment method used, problems encountered, suggestions for improvement, fees paid, time it took to complete the trade).
  1. The network of Bisq make a immense obstacle of Chinese users. And even to me it is a litter annoying. And as I have said that wechat pay and Ailipay has a very convenient usage experience for the most of Chinese.So the network of Bisq will be the most significant part to improve. I mean Chinese do have a large market .If Bisq want take part of it,then the improve of network is absolutly needed. Ban by GFW,which means lose a huge amount of users.

  2. The Bisq is based on Java. It will take a sea amount of memory of computer. It may need to improve .But more important is that most Chinese don't have enough expericence to run a sever that can put their offer alive all day.And believe me the price of Chinese local severs are ridiculously high. So it's hard for quite a lot of Chinese to put thier offers alive. I don't know if there is a way to improve it, but I do believe it need improve.

  3. The lack of adverting. Adverting is needed,China have a great market. So Bisq is a great APP,but so few of Chinese know it.Because we don't get enough advertisement. Maybe not some
    AD that cost a huge pirce but at least a AD that can make people need Bisq or hide their ID know it.
    I believe this is important. ps. maybe on some telegram channel.

  1. Attend at least 1 live Bisq Growth call to answer questions and provide feedback on the experience.

I will participant the next Growth call.But I don't know the time of it.

Thank you.

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flix1 commented Feb 14, 2020

Thank you very much for all the work and for your great feedback @RadishXN !
We know how difficult it is to start a new market from zero and how complicated it is to explain how it all works to completely new users.

Please don't forget to create a compensation request for cycle 11.

@wiz @m52go do you have more questions for the bounty hunter? or any ideas on how he can continue to grow this market?

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Thank you very much for all the work and for your great feedback @RadishXN !
We know how difficult it is to start a new market from zero and how complicated it is to explain how it all works to completely new users.

Please don't forget to create a compensation request for cycle 11.

@wiz @m52go do you have more questions for the bounty hunter? or any ideas on how he can continue to grow this market?

Yes, I have already put that in cycle 11 at here bisq-network/compensation#494
And thanks again for the help.If there is anything I can help with in the furture I will glad to help.

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m52go commented Feb 14, 2020

Great work! Nice to see some action here, and thanks for the detailed feedback. @flix1 thanks for pushing for this.

@RadishXN is there a way to help with marketing? If we do another bounty, I would prefer to combine it with a stronger marketing effort this time to build on the momentum you've started. If we don't do anything differently, I imagine we can't expect different (i.e., even better) results.

So perhaps next bounty includes a little more for marketing efforts. Maybe infographics to share on Telegram, guides (videos?), etc. Need to discuss more. I sent you a message on Keybase.

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RadishXN commented Feb 15, 2020

Great work! Nice to see some action here, and thanks for the detailed feedback. @flix1 thanks for pushing for this.

@RadishXN is there a way to help with marketing? If we do another bounty, I would prefer to combine it with a stronger marketing effort this time to build on the momentum you've started. If we don't do anything differently, I imagine we can't expect different (i.e., even better) results.

So perhaps next bounty includes a little more for marketing efforts. Maybe infographics to share on Telegram, guides (videos?), etc. Need to discuss more. I sent you a message on Keybase.

Yes,there will be some reason that I will discuss on keybase.

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m52go commented Feb 17, 2020

Update: @RadishXN, the Chinese translators, and I discussed an approach to broaden Bisq usage in China yesterday.

  • the workaround that enables Bisq to be beat the firewall seems to work well but needs a little guidance/education to help others get it working
  • RadishXN will explore groups with biggers audiences likely to use Bisq and arrange for Bisq to be promoted there
  • RadishXN and translators will work on videos to explain Bisq and how to use it in China, which we will post on the Bisq YouTube channel
    • subtitles to 2 introductory videos have already been translated
  • when the topic of translating documentation came up, I mentioned the new Bisq wiki, as it allows for anyone to add and manage content at will (current asciidoctor-based docs framework makes implementing translations rather unwieldy)

Once RadishXN determines a promotion strategy that makes sense, we'll determine guidelines for another market maker bounty and shoot for more activity this time around.

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flix1 commented Feb 19, 2020

Closing as completed successfully.

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