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Sending messages with Pantalaimon seems to time out #33

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seanfarley opened this issue Aug 20, 2021 · 11 comments
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Sending messages with Pantalaimon seems to time out #33

seanfarley opened this issue Aug 20, 2021 · 11 comments

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@seanfarley
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Receiving messages seems to work (I can read encrypted messages, yay) but when I try to send a message nothing appears to POST. Is it possible you can test a pantalaimon instance on your own?
@alphapapa
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Other users are using it with Pantalaimon successfully.

@seanfarley
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Damn! Ok, thanks for the heads up; I'll investigate my end!

@seanfarley
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By the way, thanks for such awesome emacs packages!

@alphapapa
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Thanks for the kind words. Please let me know what you find out. I might try using Pantalaimon myself eventually, but not anytime soon.

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@seanfarley Note as well that this might be an issue with transient, Emacs process-related problems I've been occasionally seeing in plz. I've been trying to solve them, but I ended up filing a report of a possible bug in Emacs: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=50166 In the meantime, plz seems 99.9% reliable in my using it with Ement.el.

So if you do encounter any problems like this, please retry a few times, or even consider restarting Emacs, because it might be, somehow, an issue with Emacs's internal, process-related bookkeeping. Also, please let me know, if it happens again, whether your Emacs process is also running a lot of other processes unrelated to Ement.el. That might help understand whether this problem is related to that one.

@seanfarley
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Ok, will do! I'll do some more testing of it tomorrow

@seanfarley
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Actually, decided to debug it now ^_^ This is something weird with my setup. Everything works if I use send-anyways so I'll look into that. Thanks for the help and getting me on the right track!

@alphapapa
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What's send-anyways? Googling didn't seem to find what you mean.

@seanfarley
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Sorry, it's a command to panctl. It turns out that I had an unverified session so pantaliamon was holding my messages back. Manually marking that random session (from a web client I was testing) as verified fixed everything. I imagine deleting that session would have worked, too.

Reading the help for send-anyways explains why it didn't send any messages (but it was completely unclear to me as a user):

https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon/blob/master/docs/man/panctl.md

@alphapapa
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Ah, thanks. Well, I guess we can close this then. Please let me know if you have any other trouble.

@seanfarley
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No, thank you for your help! I think a big lesson to take away from this is to run panctl when there are errors because they will print some (maybe helpful) messages. Thanks again!

telenieko added a commit to telenieko/ement.el that referenced this issue Oct 14, 2023
@telenieko
Expand the E2EE documentation
6e7b733 
Thanks to alphapapa & contributors for such an amazing Matrix client
for Emacs. Combined with Beeper I now have all my social networks in
one place: Emacs!

We now include as much information as possible about E2EE set up in a
separate file (e2ee.org) in order to:

- Make up for the lack of documentation from Pantalaimon
- Have a place to include tips & tricks about making it work
- Have a place to direct users asking about E2EE in Ement.el (and
  suggesting them to submit updates/additions), like:
  - alphapapa#54
  - alphapapa#60
  - matrix-org/pantalaimon#157
  - alphapapa#33

Fixes alphapapa#153
@telenieko telenieko mentioned this issue Oct 14, 2023
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telenieko added a commit to telenieko/ement.el that referenced this issue Oct 23, 2023
@telenieko
Expand the E2EE documentation
b87dbf1 
Thanks to alphapapa & contributors for such an amazing Matrix client
for Emacs. Combined with Beeper I now have all my social networks in
one place: Emacs!

We now include as much information as possible about E2EE set up in a
separate file (e2ee.org) in order to:

- Make up for the lack of documentation from Pantalaimon
- Have a place to include tips & tricks about making it work
- Have a place to direct users asking about E2EE in Ement.el (and
  suggesting them to submit updates/additions), like:
  - alphapapa#54
  - alphapapa#60
  - matrix-org/pantalaimon#157
  - alphapapa#33

Fixes alphapapa#153
telenieko added a commit to telenieko/ement.el that referenced this issue Dec 17, 2023
@telenieko
Expand the E2EE documentation
40d1daf 
Thanks to alphapapa & contributors for such an amazing Matrix client
for Emacs. Combined with Beeper I now have all my social networks in
one place: Emacs!

We now include as much information as possible about E2EE set up in a
separate file (e2ee.org) in order to:

- Make up for the lack of documentation from Pantalaimon
- Have a place to include tips & tricks about making it work
- Have a place to direct users asking about E2EE in Ement.el (and
  suggesting them to submit updates/additions), like:
  - alphapapa#54
  - alphapapa#60
  - matrix-org/pantalaimon#157
  - alphapapa#33

Fixes alphapapa#153
telenieko added a commit to telenieko/ement.el that referenced this issue Jan 20, 2024
@telenieko
Expand the E2EE documentation
6412c8a 
Thanks to alphapapa & contributors for such an amazing Matrix client
for Emacs. Combined with Beeper I now have all my social networks in
one place: Emacs!

We now include as much information as possible about E2EE set up in a
separate file (e2ee.org) in order to:

- Make up for the lack of documentation from Pantalaimon
- Have a place to include tips & tricks about making it work
- Have a place to direct users asking about E2EE in Ement.el (and
  suggesting them to submit updates/additions), like:
  - alphapapa#54
  - alphapapa#60
  - matrix-org/pantalaimon#157
  - alphapapa#33

Fixes alphapapa#153
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