Token balance decreasing while ONLY seeding!

[Nubro01]

• I have tried with the latest pre-release version and I still can reproduce the issue.
  Oct 2nd 2018

Tribler version/branch+revision:

7.1

Operating system and version:

WIndows 10 17763 1809

Steps to reproduce the behavior:

Start Tribler and ONLY seed!

Expected behavior:

While seeding and obly giving token balence should increase

Actual behavior:

it decreases

Relevant log file output:

[qstokkink]

Right now the payouts are as follows:

Peer	Payout
Hidden seeding Tribler user
Plain seeding Tribler user
Other users

Since we do not refuse upload to non-Tribler users, there will be no payout and thus you will lose tokens to non-Tribler users. We should probably create the option to only seed to other Tribler users.

[Thomasedv]

@qstokkink Could you elaborate a bit on what/why it costs a Tribler user to upload? I'm not quite sure i understand how uploading is a cost. (And why it should be, even to non-tribler users)

[qstokkink]

@Thomasedv this is regarding anonymous downloading/seeding:

We set up Tor-like tunnels to anonymize your traffic. Our bandwidth tokens are based on the amount of bandwidth you send over these tunnels. When you send any traffic over such an anonymizing circuit you pay those who helped you anonymize your data. However, because this is anonymized, we cannot distinguish between downloading and uploading a torrent; both downloading and uploading is simply data sent through the tunnel, which you pay for.
This situation changes if the uploader and downloader are both Tribler users. In this case we can properly forward payouts along the circuit, such that the downloader pays the uploader (and all of the intermediate tunnel peers).

[markx]

That makes sense, but I think it'll be nice to at least make this clear in the UI.

[devos50]

@markx We have added an info tooltip to the user interface in a recent commit, which explains the payout mechanism.

[qstokkink]

@devos50 can we close this issue then?

[devos50]

Yeah, this issue is also discussed in #3778.

[Nubro01]

Hi, Ik zag dat er op het Forum de nieuwe Ttribler 7.2 stond, maar is er ook een nieuwe jenkins download locatie? Ro