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Discuss whether or not China Tank Emperor Subliminal Messaging bug should be fixed #21

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xezon opened this issue Aug 24, 2021 · 9 comments
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xezon commented Aug 24, 2021

Discuss whether or not China Tank Emperor Subliminal Messaging bug should be fixed.

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commy2 commented Aug 26, 2021

Here is how the fix could look like: commy2/zerohour@b96fa22

I personally vote for fixing this. The Emperor is really underpowered to the point that it's better to just spam Autoloader Battlemasters. And the Emperor does have the same starting health and damage output as a regular v China Overlord.

Fact: a vet 3 Emperor loses in a 1v1 vs a vet 3 Subliminal Messaging Prop Tower Overlord DESPITE THE GATLING GUN, because it shoots and heals slower. It's worse in every way compared to the Nuke version too obviously.

Also consider that Tank has to pay and wait extra long for a Prop Lix to heal the army.

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xezon commented Aug 26, 2021

Interesting. Always thought the Tank Emperor is stronger than the Overlords.

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commy2 commented Aug 26, 2021

It's perks are a free tower and $100 less (so a total $600 saved) and vet 1, but as far as raw stats go, it's an exact copy paste. (Again, same weapon and health.)

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ReLaX82 commented Aug 28, 2021

Fix it, as its broken. Puts more options to Tank gameplay.

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RisingZH commented Sep 4, 2021

Fix

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xezon commented Sep 7, 2021

There was a poll in Discord and it seems consensus is pretty clear on this fix. Let's do it then!

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Only wonder how this will affect lategame tank vs usa(s). Ecm emperor might become very difficult to kill. But perhaps worth a try and will make the emperor more viable i guess.

Also might help in balancing lategame tank vs nuke a little bit

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xezon commented Jul 11, 2022

Fixed.

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ReLaX82 commented Aug 14, 2022

I think having an Emperor as a better unit is worth a try as its rarely used in 1on1 anyway as BM/Gat/ecm combo with hord Bonus is better.

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