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Include "energy conversion efficiency" class #434
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We have
I don't find it easy to classify |
I think the way UO is used is something along these lines: There are always four separate things: (1) the entity in reality (some sort of specifically dependent continuant, perhaps, or a process) (2) a number (3) a unit. The entity then has_value some (4) quantity value entity, that has_unit the unit. (And may have a specified value with a data property). The relationship between the quantity value entity (4) and the entity in the world (1) is is_about. |
Thank you @jannahastings for the clarification. We have The chain would go: process attribute entity Then it would be possible to assign the specifically dependent continuants like chemical energy, electrical energy etc. to the energy converting device. Instead of Is that the right way to think? |
I like your approach @k-knosala. |
The current definition of the energy transformation is: Energy transformation is a process in which one ore more certain types of energy as input result in certain types of energy as output. It is rather generic and does not say that the amount of energy in equals the energy out. So I do not see the need for a redefinition here. |
@l-emele I totally aggree that the definition of @stap-m Maybe the definition of "useful" should not be made in the ontology. A way to circumvent the definiton of "useful" would be to have a conversion factor for every output. |
This is correct for efficiencies propper (η). Coefficient of performance (COP) ignores (the free) part of energy inputs. Although they measure the same thing, engineers tend to be testy when it comes to conflating the two, so I think they should both be represented in the ontology. Specifically, limiting efficiencies to values less then one (constraining attributes was discussed on OEO Dev Meeting 7) would not work for COPs. |
So, we could define |
I'm not sure I got how attributes fit in the ontology, but sounds right. |
So far we have:
We still need definitions for these terms. My suggestions (based on the discussion above):
Also, I'd propose opening a new issue for |
Can't we be more specific about the outputs? They are either used or lost/dissipated/cooled away, so how about
The output needs specification, else the ratio is 1 by definition. So
Actually it's quite analogous to efficiency. Efficiency disregards heat outputs (unless they are used, e.g. co-production of heat and power), whereas COP disregards heat inputs. So I would suggest:
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What do you mean by "work input"? Physical work or something else? I am asking because we have not yet defined work. |
I thought about mechanical work, as in "the energy transferred to or from an object via the application of force along a displacement" (your source). But actually, it could also be electrical work. So to be really precise (obnoxiously so), it should be "non-heat input of an energy transformation". |
Now we have these four concepts with definitions and relations:
Does everybody agree with this? |
Since everyone seems to agree, I'll implement this. |
Description of the issue
We need a class for energy conversion efficiency:
The definition of energy conversion efficiency refers to all useful outputs. Energy conversion efficiency for a certain output can be distiguished by e.g. electrical efficiency, mechanical efficiency and thermal efficiency.
Energy storage efficiency is different from energy conversion efficency and should be covered in a seperate issue.
Ideas of solution
Definition: Energy conversion efficiency is the ratio between the
useful output of an energy converting device and the input, in energy terms.
Existent classes that can be used to integrate
energy conversion efficieny
:energy conversion efficiency
is aratio
energy converting device
doesEnergy Transformation
withenergy conversion effiency
Workflow checklist
I am aware that
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