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German labels as alternative terms #1471

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l-emele opened this issue Feb 1, 2023 · 41 comments
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German labels as alternative terms #1471

l-emele opened this issue Feb 1, 2023 · 41 comments
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l-emele commented Feb 1, 2023

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In today's SIROP meeting we spoke shortly whether we should add German labels as alternative terms to all or at least the most relevant classes.

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chrwm commented Feb 1, 2023

If the proposal is favoured, I think it could be useful to build upon German labels from existing and in-use vocabulary, such as EnArgus.

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l-emele commented Feb 2, 2023

If the concepts match -- why not. However, in a lot of cases we propably cannot match 1:1, for example EnArgus has
We can also add only Kraftwerk but we distinguish between power plant and power generating unit.

For matching concepts we can additionally use the annotation property may be identical to to reference the EnArgus term.

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This is more a comment: I agree that German labels would be helpful not only for mapping, but also for using the OEO as e.g. dictionary for a wider public (@Ludee, didn't you suggest, that we could add easier to read German explanations of the most important terms some day?)

If we agree that German lables are important for improving the comparison tool, what workflow should be applied then? Most of the German translations won't cause trouble, but some may need discussion. Would it make sense to create issues like "Add german label to existing classes: sector", "... : sector division" etc. with lists of all important classes within these higher level classes and then work through it?

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l-emele commented Feb 2, 2023

I think, it is best to discuss the workflow on the next OEO dev meeting. That's why I already added the oeo dev meeting label.

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l-emele commented Feb 2, 2023

As a short test, I took six core concepts of the OEO and listed how I would translated. Then I checked against EnArgus and found for only two of the six corresponding entries in EnArgus.

Label German label EnArgus
energy Energy Energie
energy carrier Energieträger Energieträger
fuel Brennstoff ?
energy transformation Energieumwandlung ?
energy transfer Energieübertragung ?
energy demand Energienachfrage ?

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Using the search bar I found two more as full synonyms - plus derived "Energieübertragung" from "energy transfer system" = "Energieübertragungssystem". Input for the discussion.

Label German label EnArgus
energy Energy Energie
energy carrier Energieträger Energieträger
fuel Brennstoff Kraftstoff
energy transformation Energieumwandlung ?
energy transfer Energieübertragung ?
energy demand Energienachfrage Energiebedarf

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l-emele commented Feb 3, 2023

Kraftstoff from EnArgus is not equivalent to our fuel, however it maybe equivalent to our combustion fuel. Our fuel also includes nuclear fuel while that is not mentioned in EnArgus' description of Kraftstoff.

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l-emele commented Feb 14, 2023

As discussed, I finalised the spreadsheet with the German labels and the EnArgus matching. However, I am not able to share this file via Google Docs. Does someone else have the possibility to share a spreedsheet in a way that it is accessible and editable without registration by user?

If not, an alternative would be to export the spreadsheet to a CSV file and add this to feature branch.

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carstenhoyerklick commented Apr 20, 2023

Now as a google docs document
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1snsx6zF8dqXGM9WCX0EckrdGnorrB9lMnvdvP2fx9ZQ/edit?usp=sharing

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l-emele commented Apr 27, 2023

I worked today a bit on the table.

In total we have in the list currently 1055 OEO classes and individuals 1. Of these 627 have one or more proposals for German labels. Additionally, 122 entries are matched to EnArgus.

There are some very fundamental OEO concepts where we have do discuss to find good German labels:

  • portion of matter
  • fuel
  • quantity value

Further, we have to find good translations for the BFO classes disposition and role as there are a lot of OEO-defined classes that contain the words disposition resp. role in their English labels.

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  1. The CRF sector individuals are currently exlcucded (filtered out) as they are so many.

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l-emele commented May 25, 2023

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l-emele commented Sep 26, 2024

I close this issue now. The enArgus matching that is also part of the spreadsheet can be reused in the enArgus issue #179.

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