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Overview cheat sheet #161

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soerenthomsen opened this issue Nov 18, 2021 · 14 comments
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Overview cheat sheet #161

soerenthomsen opened this issue Nov 18, 2021 · 14 comments
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soerenthomsen commented Nov 18, 2021

@pipa85 suggested to have a simple overview graph to understand key steps in 10 min.

I agree with her that this would be great to have. @patricialg we started with that once at the beginning and postponed due to too many changes. But I think we should include this before submission or?

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Yes, I still have it ;) but unfinished. I'll try create a draft so we can comment and find the best option for the diagram.

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Great!

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Picture1
This is what we started a few months ago, where processes are calssified as:
!!! Must have
!! Should have
! Desirable

I will need to check for updates.
Is this a good design? Or we prefer a cascade?

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This looks good. although a simple 'shopping' list would also work. it would also allow to have a sentence or so below with details if needed. I would mention if you don't have an oxygen sensor on the rosette, but can collect samples for Winkler titrations, that should be done!

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soerenthomsen commented Nov 18, 2021

Agree Winkler Samples if attached to CTD should be added at the calibration stops!

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@hahn-johannes what is your view on this? What are "key" steps to be taken?

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tomhull commented Nov 19, 2021

For me a glider oxygen shopping list would look like:

  1. mount the sensors as best you can, buy ones which are better for gliders (imo that means, RBR / RINKO)
  2. make sure your glider is configured to record phase with correct timings
  3. two point calibrate sensor just prior to use
  4. have some form of in-situ reference. we have a hierarchy of decreasing quality, e.g.
    • BEST: multiple co-located CTD casts in well mixed waters with lots of winklers + in-air drift correction
    • GOOD: single point winkler sample and CTD from nearby and no drift correction
    • OK: in-air calibration only
  5. correct for optode lag

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soerenthomsen commented Nov 22, 2021

Referring to Tom's shopping list. The two point calibration should be a "MUST" otherwise the data is not really useful in my view.

I add to "Best" that the optodes are attached to calibrated CTD, this is for example possible via a logger for the aanderaa ones and see the co-located CTD casts more as a "check"

We need more expertise on this SOP of people already doing the in-air calibration. Or @tomhull are you already performing it?

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OK, so following what we have in the SOP now and your comments, we can have something like this? (we will need to improve it once we decide the final version, and I'll try to add it to a diagram that looks better ;) )

Pre-deployment

  1. Check that the sensors are in good condition.
  2. Do two-point calibration. Ideallly, test more than one sensor.
  3. Mount the sensors as best you can, buy ones which are better for gliders (imo that means, RBR / RINKO)
  4. Have some form of in-situ reference.
  • OK: In situ intercomparison in the tank during ballasting
  1. Configure sensor for deployment.

Deployment

  1. Make sure your glider is configured to record phase with correct timings.
  2. Keep sensor foil wet.
  3. Do two-point calibration prior to use
  4. Have some form of in-situ reference. The hierarchy of decreasing quality, e.g.
  • BEST: Optodes attached to a CTD. This is for example possible via a logger for the Aanderaa ones and see the co-located CTD casts
  • BEST: multiple co-located CTD casts in well mixed waters with lots of Winkler samples and in-air drift correction
  • GOOD: single point winkler sample and CTD from nearby and no drift correction
  • OK: in-air calibration only

Recovery

  1. After recovery, keep sensor foil wet.
  2. Download data.
  3. Have some form of in-situ reference. The hierarchy of decreasing quality, e.g.
  • BEST: Optodes attached to a CTD. This is for example possible via a logger for the Aanderaa ones and see the co-located CTD casts
  • BEST: multiple co-located CTD casts in well mixed waters with lots of Winkler samples and in-air drift correction
  • GOOD: single point Winkler sample and CTD from nearby and no drift correction
  • OK: in-air calibration only
  1. Properly clean and store the sensor.
  2. Correct for optode lag

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@gkrahmann we plan to close the community review for the oxygen SOP this week to prepare a submission to OBPS. What do you think about the "cheat sheet/list" above?

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gkrahmann commented Feb 7, 2022

A bit in line with what I suggested a long time ago, I would separate the
'recovery' into
'recovery' and 'post-processing' or 'dmqc' as in the sections.
Then 'post-processing' would include

  1. Determine optode lag <- this one depends on optode type and mounting
  2. Correct optode lag

I also would be cautious about the 'imo' from Tom. Either that is an agreed upon statement,
or leave it out...
I guess too few of us have experience with different optodes to make a qualified statement.
And if you have a statement about buying sensors, it should perhaps be the first one not the third ;-)

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soerenthomsen commented Feb 7, 2022

Thanks Gerd! I agree with all your points. Also to include the other chapters and have bullit point style key steps to do. Everything together should not be then a page.

Also which sensor to buy I think should be remove and keep the list generic.

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patricialg commented Feb 7, 2022

Hi all,
Following your recomendations:

Pre-deployment/Deployment

  1. Check that sensors are in good condition and you have selected the best option for the planned mission.
    • BEST: Do two-point calibration.
  2. Mount the sensor(s)
  3. Configure sensor for deployment. Make sure your glider is configured to record phase with correct timings.
  4. Keep sensor foil wet at least 8 hours before deployment. If it cannot be kept submerged in water, have a wet sponge covering the foil.
  5. Do two-point calibration shortly before deployment.
  6. In-situ reference measurements recommended to do, using hierarchy of decreasing quality:
    • BEST: Optodes attached to a CTD.
    • BEST: multiple co-located CTD casts in well mixed waters (including Winkler samples at different depths) and in-air drift correction
    • GOOD: single point Winkler sample and CTD from nearby and no drift correction
    • OK: in-air calibration only

Recovery
7. Keep sensor foil wet until finish in-situ reference mesurements (Point 9).
8. Download data.
9. In-situ reference measurements recommended to do, using hierarchy of decreasing quality as mentioned in Point 6.
10. Clean and store the sensor.

DMQC
11. Determine and correct optode lag

Let me know what you think we should include/delete.
Cheers,
Patry

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soerenthomsen commented Feb 9, 2022

I close this discussion for now. My suggestion is to start working on a graphical version after version 1.0 on OBPS i.e. during the preparation for publication for Frontiers.

Thanks everyone for contributing. You can see the results in the introduction now.

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