Vestland Climate Grids enhencement for NorESM-LSP (may be a new branch of the platform?) #166
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Setting up a new branch sounds like a good idea, @huitang-earth, and I agree it would be nice to make individual developments available for everyone through work on a new branch. @ecaas and I have glanced at your script for making the surface data already, and wondered how much work is needed to re-run them if necessary and to store the data somewhere available for the LSP. About the COSMO data, we should coordinate with @yelizy who is also working on making improved forcing data for at least some of the VCG sites using Toposcale-downscaled ERA 5 data. I'm not familiar with which is best, but either way it doesn't hurt to have more options. Is is possible for anyone to download the COSMO data directly from Fram via the internet, or do we have to log in to access it? For my own project, I only need data for the four alpine (ALP1-4) VCG sites right now. Depending on how much work it is, though, it would be great to help make a coherent set of improved forcing and surface data for all the 12 VCG sites that is integrated in the LSP. About the moss PFT, would it require changes to the code to make it available through the GUI? Tagging old issues #141 and #40 here as they seem relevant and might be superseded by this discussion. I think we might convert this issue to a discussion thread. |
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Data storage threadLinking to this discussion about input data storage for the LSP in general, where should we put new forcing data for sites? Options include e.g. Sigma2, Zenodo, OSF, other...? It might also be good practice for data to be published with a DOI and proper metadata including method description, version control, and citation instructions. So I favor Zenodo or something similar, where it will also be possible to link to and add creation scripts and to provide metadata and a list of creators so the whole workflow becomes more transparent. |
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Thanks for bringing this up, @huitang-earth! I'm interested in these data as well, especially atmospheric forcing and surface data for BOR1-4, but ideally for all 12 sites. If needed, I'm happy to help putting these data together. I'm a bit unsure if I will use the platform or not, as it might be more efficient for me to run simulations "the regular way"... So I agree with Eva about publishing the data with a DOI and proper documentation, so they can be used and referenced by a broader community. I'm also not familiar with the difference between the COSMO-REA vs. the Toposcale-downscaled ERA5, are there big pros/cons using one over the other? In any case I guess it will be nice to have the choice within the platform, if it is possible without to much extra work. |
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Hi again, @evalieungh and I discussed briefly today and think it would be very useful to at least have input data for a few of the VCG sites available, so we can start testing/designing experiments. A short meeting might be useful to get an overview over what exists and what needs to be done. |
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Surface datacopy+paste from comment in overlapping thread:
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should we integrate the improved input data as a new branch, or as defaults for the VCG sites in the main branch?If the COSMOREA forcing and improved surface data give better results for the VCG sites, I think it might be best to just merge the improvements into the LSP main branch after developing and testing a separate branch. Do people agree with this? If we aim to merge the improved data into main, the improved data should be general enough that LSP users don't have to read up on the site differences a lot. So i.e. a new moss PFT should be kept separate for now, unless we can implement it for all of the sites (including LATICE-MIP sites, potential new sites, etc.). This might also have implications for the choices in the surface data file, like PFT cover fractions and which observational data sets we use. For example, the SeedClim and INCLINE locations in the ALP sites are slightly different and will have different slope/aspect and some other differences. |
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Problems setting up COSMOREA for the LSPHi, lately I've been trying to test COSMOREA data with a branch of the platform, but I'm running into weird problems. I have tried to follow the setup used by @huitang-earth and @ecaas (huitang-earth/scripts_ctsm_region), with some modifications necessary since the LSP organises some files a bit differently. Today I have tested this:
In the GUI, it looks like both cases finish successfully. The default (1.) case seems to finish successfully and produces normal output files and logs. So I think the cime_config/ files are not the problem, at least. The cosmorea test case does not start properly, and produces no output and almost no logs. The only log file with any content is
There is also something wrong indicated by
@yelizy already looked at this a bit today, and tomorrow I will go to Blindern to do more testing. @ecaas will you also be there tomorrow? Can we compare case folders to see what is wrong? @huitang-earth do you have an idea what might be the problem? |
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As far as I know, there have been several modelling work planned for Vestland Climate Grids, including my moss model development, @ecaas soil decomposition model, @evalieungh transplant experiments etc.
These work require a better input data and setup for these sites, which are not available in the current version of the platform.
I have spent some efforts together with @kjetilaas, @srg101, @ingealthuizen to improve some of the input data for our moss work, which include:
Hope these information serve as a starting point for anyone who is interested in further enhencing the input and setup data for Vestland Climate Grid sites. I am happy to share these these efforts already through the platform. Perhaps, a new branch of the platform for Vestland climate grids enhancement would be a good idea?
Please let me know your opinions, especially those who plan to work on these sites using the platform @evalieungh and @ecaas.
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