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Question: why does 環 not have a grouping based on 衣 with the kvg:partial attribute? #87

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fasiha opened this issue Aug 12, 2014 · 3 comments
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@fasiha
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fasiha commented Aug 12, 2014

I see a number of kanji with 𧘇 (part of 衣) where those four strokes are in a group with kvg:element="衣" kvg:partial="true": 俵, 喪, 園, 猿, 薗, 表, 衷, 遠.

Is there an etymological/linguistic reason why 環 is not among these? Put another way, why are the last four strokes of 環 just stand-alone <path>s and not put in a <g kvg:element="衣" kvg:partial="true" ...> group?

(Major kudos and many thanks for KanjiVG. I'm using it in my kanji studies and trying to learn how exactly you have gone about structuring the data as you have, hence this question (and others).)

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Gnurou commented Aug 12, 2014

This question should go to the KanjiVG discussion group to get a better chance of getting an answer:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kanjivg

Would you mind posting it there as well? There are a few linguists monitoring this group and they might have an anwer (I don't unfortunately).

@benkasminbullock
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I tend to disagree with @Gnurou here, I think this is an omission. Further to that I notice the following:

There are five kanji in KanjiVG which contain the 睘 (U+7758) element, which are

    • kanji/09b1f.svg - does not contain 睘
    • kanji/09b1f-HzFst.svg - does not contain 睘
    • kanji/0571c.svg - does not contain 睘
    • /kanji/074b0.svg - contains 睘
    • kanji/074b0-VtLst.svg - does not contain 睘
    • kanji/05bf0.svg - does not contain 睘
    • kanji/05bf0-Kaisho.svg - does not contain 睘
    • kanji/09084.svg - contains 睘

I think all of these should have the 睘 element added and the bottom part should also have 𧘇 in all cases as @fasiha suggests.

@benkasminbullock benkasminbullock added the Grouping How individual strokes are grouped label Mar 25, 2022
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This should be fixed completely with 4c4c5d0. I'll leave the pull request open for 24 hours in case anyone wants to comment.

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