too fast QBO in EAMv2 #4685
Replies: 4 comments 10 replies
-
@wenyuz my only thought on this is that the DCAPE trigger modification in the Zhang-McFarlane (ZM) deep convection scheme that was added for v2 will effectively reduce the amount of convective heating that is used for gravity wave generation, which might explain why you're seeing a different sensitivity to changing those parameters. Coincidently, I just made this figure the other day directly comparing the precipitation in v1 and v2: This is a 2 year average of 3 precip variables - total, convective, and "large-scale" - of some coupled runs I'm doing that branch from the 500-year pre-industrial control simulations for v1 and v2. I was just making this plot as a sanity check that things were looking reasonable, but it's quite striking how the convective precipitation reduces in v2. I think "convective" precip includes precip from ZM and CLUBB, but I suspect the majority of this difference is due to the DCAPE change in ZM. One way you might be able to directly test this is to artificially enhance the convective heating that is used for gravity waves. |
Beta Was this translation helpful? Give feedback.
-
Here are some results with tuned parameters. What I saw in the control EAMv2 may not be QBO but semi-annual oscillation. In other words, the QBO is absent in the control EAMv2 simulation. I further tuned the parameters related to the convective gravity drag but still could not get a reasonable QBO. Here are my results. The closest case is with effgw_beres = 0.4; gw_convect_hcf = 20, which produces an ~annual oscillation. |
Beta Was this translation helpful? Give feedback.
-
@wenyuz Have you tried disabling |
Beta Was this translation helpful? Give feedback.
-
I had some discussions with Yaga Richter. She told me that, in the historical simulation when they tuned effgw_beres=0.35 and convect_hcf=10, EAMv2 was able to simulate a QBO with a ~2 year period but with a very weak amplitude. https://web.lcrc.anl.gov/public/e3sm/diagnostic_output/wlin/E3SMv2/v2.LR.HIST_ENS/e3sm_diags/180x360_aave/model_vs_obs_1985-2014/viewer/qbo/variable/qbo-era-interim/plot.html What I ran is the AMIP F2000. I use the newest code on this GitHub page and the default run does not change any parameter. It will be surprising if the difference between AMIP and coupled simulations is so large. So I wonder if there may be some code differences between them. Thanks. |
Beta Was this translation helpful? Give feedback.
-
Hi,
I ran the EAMv2 with an F2000 setup and found that the QBO is too fast (with a period of half-year).
I notice that EAMv2 has already incorporated the parameter tuning for better QBO, as suggested by Richter et al. 2019.
In Richter et al. 2019 (based on EAMv1), they reduces the values of the following two parameters: effgw_beres = 0.35 (default 0..4 in EAMv1) and gw_convect_hcf=10 (default 20 in EAMv1). This reduces the magnitude of the gravity momentum source and consequently makes the QBO less fast in EAMv1.
I tried to further reduce the values of these two parameters (effgw_beres = 0.1 and gw_convect_hcf=4) but the QBO period does not change much and is still at about half year.
I wonder if there is any explanation for this behavior of EAMv2.
Thanks,
Richter et al. 2019: Improved Simulation of the QBO in E3SMv1. JAMES.
Wenyu Zhou
Beta Was this translation helpful? Give feedback.
All reactions