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btw why rename the package? google offers to correct the new name with the old one!(did you mean antimicro?) this kills most of the traffic by itself! Consider a scenario when someone found antimicro years ago, finds it again by a little search, but they have no good way to find antimicrox. |
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(I assume you are talking about adding it to official debian repositories. )
Could you give me some links describing use of it, my attempts of googling it ended at StackOverflow looking at different problems with linking...
Which repositories do you mean? Do you mean Linux repositories or sites like Sourceforge?
It is not very dependent on us, but some sites have noticed our efforts 😄
It was done by the original developer of AntiMicroX, it was probably (I can't say I am sure about it) caused by problems with lack of will to pass this project (already abandoned) to someone else by creators of legacy AntiMicro creators (just look at these repositories, there is no information about ending development of project, it is still active and people are still reporting bugs there). |
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this feature comes from debian itself.
Both. Just google antimicro and check out every link for a few pages. you will be surprised at how many there are out there! mostly windows though...
The only way I see is continuing to direct issues over here, maybe breathe down the original devs necks @jsbackus and @juliagoda and @AmenStop to ask them to officially post about this project and their abandoing of it.(4-3-2 years of issues is too much in the world of open source)
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Handing over the project is something I've been meaning to do for a while,
just been to overwhelmed to do even that. If this project wants to take
over, pls contact me via email.
…On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 18:29 Aria Moradi ***@***.***> wrote:
Could you give me some links describing use of it, my attempts of googling
it ended at StackOverflow looking at different problems with linking...
this feature comes from debian itself.
docs:
- https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives
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http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/update-alternatives.8.html
Which repositories do you mean? Do you mean Linux repositories or sites
like Sourceforge?
Both. Just google antimicro and check out every link for a few pages. you
will be surprised at how many there are out there!
(just look at these repositories, there is no information about ending
development of project, it is still active and people are still reporting
bugs there).
The only way I see is continuing to direct issues over here, maybe breathe
under the original devs necks @jsbackus <https://github.com/jsbackus> and
@juliagoda <https://github.com/juliagoda> and @AmenStop
<https://github.com/AmenStop> to ask them to officially post about this
project and their abandoing of it.(4-3-2 years of issues is too much in the
world of open source)
*still* I think there is no reason to change the project's name, it's
under GPLv3 anyways. This will help with traffic/SEO alot. trust me.
@AriaMoradi <https://github.com/AriaMoradi>
Thank you for your questions, thank to them I realized there is already
antimicro package in debian repositories and I could try to contact its
maintainer.
happy to help
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There you go! now you can take over the original account(and distributions)! Thanks to @jsbackus |
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:) just glad to see someone else carrying the torch, and sad that I haven't
been able to find a good home for AntiMicro sooner
…On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 18:48 Aria Moradi ***@***.***> wrote:
Handing over the project is something I've been meaning to do for a while,
just been to overwhelmed to do even that. If this project wants to take
over, pls contact me via email.
There you go! now you can take over the original account! Thank you
@jsbackus <https://github.com/jsbackus>
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First of all, please finally stop calling me to the board, because it's already getting distasteful and I get unwanted messages in my email address. Secondly, I was open to everything until a certain point, until pktiuk definitely did not exaggerate in his actions. I am sorry that I am not perfect like him because I had some bugs or whatever. If my fork is so bad, you didn't have to fork it, you just could take care of the official version and continue it. I don't have to explain myself to anyone from something I do for free, but I continued the program for about 2 years and all I read is statements like yours. "maybe what @juliagoda did back then was a good thing" - maybe it's because, for example, you don't have to use this fork? I wanted to continue and learn something from it and I did it. As I said, I have no intention of explaining it to anyone. I'm not going to pin issue of people who play with constant criticism and pretend to know everything better than others. I had pinned the information, but they abused my courtesy and the discussion is ended. I don't like to hear someone speak when doesn't even know what's going on. Besides, how can I link to the person who told me that he is creating a continuation of the project only to make it accessible to as many people as possible, but he will not add any new functionality and will not do anything else but marketing. It is very convenient to publicize not your work, sign it, criticize the mistakes of your predecessors while doing little. I will not continue the discussion because it does not make any sense. I do not have time for this. |
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People can often disagree about direction of app development in general. But this time there is also another reason for creating fork. It is also a way of preserving someone else's code from obsolescence. And this was clearly the reason of forking AntiMicroX from AntiMicro, and it is also the reason of forking this repository from your version. That's why I consider myself more of a maintainer than a developer, which wants to keep this project alive and make it usable for as wide audience as possible. I understand you don't have time, as you told earlier that it was the main reason for stopping development of AntiMicroX. Because of that I haven't mentioned you earlier in issues when I had problems with understanding some changes in code. If you find these notifications annoying disable them here: https://github.com/watching |
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@pktiuk @juliagoda (How can I mention you in a discussion without mentioning you? 🙂) If you didn't archive the repo, we were likely just helping out with that version. Also, if there was another maintained fork of https://github.com/AntiMicro/antimicro or https://github.com/juliagoda/antimicroX, then we would be maintaining that or team up with the maintainers so that only 1 fork exists.
Where have we criticized you? We are volunteers and doing it not because/despite any feelings, but because we think it's a fine GPL FOSS project and it should be distributed to users. Many FOSS projects are in maintenance mode, but we fixed bugs and builds, created packages and kept the codebase in good standing which I think is really useful for users. I understand your criticism that this is "just maintenance" but even that takes several hours of volunteer work.
We apologize. Is it possible for you to forgive what we have done, and do what's best for the project and the users: put a link to our repo in your README so that they will be able to find the only maintained fork? |
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First I should apologize if my wording caused any misunderstanding. I didn't intend to discredit or criticize your work, I was just analyzing the current status quo and calling it "not good" meant that since it's read-only now, it leaves the potential users left out in the dark. |
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@AriaMoradi We will have to think how to deal with this possibility, because It won't as simple as pushing changes on new repo, it will also require updating our packages for fedora, arch and flathub. |
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(since renaming the repo is related to promoting I'll write my thoughts here, if not open a new issue for it) best case scenario1- pull from the old project, put the current branches under legacy named ones(i.e. master -> master_legacy) less desirable scenario1- restore windows functionality and other features if removed from legacy |
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Firstly, I will try to go with AntiMicroX releases as possible without removing Windows (its support wasn't removed after first release). |
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With AntiMicro, I was able to test it under Wine. You might have trouble testing for bugs, at least in programs that don't work in Wine, but you might try using it for testing. Also, leverage the community. If no one is willing to step up to help with testing, then I wouldn't worry about adding support back in 😄 Also - I highly recommend switching the Windows installer from Wix to something like NSIS that works pretty well under Wine. |
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Hello I would like to contribute to this project. I find it incredibly useful, currently mapping out a suite of control sets for blender controls. I use Linux mostly. |
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I'm glad to hear that. If you are familiar with C++ you could help us with fixing some of our bugs or implementing some functionalities. What would you like to do? |
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I don't know C unfortunately. Id be happy to help on the website, shall we start there? |
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Hey, @clickonrefresh, great choice. here is our website: https://github.com/AntiMicroX/antimicrox.github.io, it is created using vuepress. Take a look please and let us know. There are a few issues too that will help you know what is to be expected in the website. |
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I sent you an invitation to our team on GitHub |
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Thanks glad to be here. I had a look at the issues for website, I havnt used vuepress yet so will just take a moment to familiarize myself. Looks straight forward though. |
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Summary
This thread is focused on discussion about making AntiMicroX a bit more popular and accessible for new users.
Big part of this issue is just regaining users, staying with old legacy AntiMicro.
I think AntiMicroX is a very good project which doesn't get deserved attention.
A lot of work has been done to original AntiMirco, and it could currently without any problems replace original AntiMicro which is still quite popular.
This would help us by providing more feedback, and it could also attract potential contributors.
This entire issue is a bit inspired by similar one from xournal++ GitHub (this project has similar history as a fork of abandoned app)
Some stats
Github stars: link
Flathub stats can be found at this site
Things to do
In terms of accessibility, there are still some things to do:
What do you think about these tasks? Do you have any comments in terms of accessibility and visibility for new and old users?
This is also a very good place to share your first impression.
To sum up:
If you want to help you can:
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