diff --git a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/cosmos-orchestration-account.js b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/cosmos-orchestration-account.js
index 431b8cb1d710..7ee95f003cb9 100644
--- a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/cosmos-orchestration-account.js
+++ b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/cosmos-orchestration-account.js
@@ -163,6 +163,7 @@ export const prepareCosmosOrchestrationAccountKit = (
       // @ts-expect-error XXX Patterns
       const topicKit = makeRecorderKit(storageNode, PUBLIC_TOPICS.account[1]);
       // TODO determine what goes in vstorage https://github.com/Agoric/agoric-sdk/issues/9066
+      // TODO consider making this opt-out
       void E(topicKit.recorder).write('');
 
       return { chainAddress, bondDenom, topicKit, ...rest };
diff --git a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-chain-facade.js b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-chain-facade.js
index ddada8f15f4a..cb3d0e850a06 100644
--- a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-chain-facade.js
+++ b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-chain-facade.js
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 import { E } from '@endo/far';
 import { M } from '@endo/patterns';
 import { pickFacet } from '@agoric/vat-data';
+import { VowShape } from '@agoric/vow';
 
 import { ChainFacadeI } from '../typeGuards.js';
 
@@ -36,7 +37,7 @@ const prepareLocalChainFacadeKit = (
   {
     makeLocalOrchestrationAccountKit,
     localchain,
-    storageNode,
+    storageNode, // consider making an accounts childNode TODO #9066
     vowTools: { allVows, watch },
   },
 ) =>
@@ -44,9 +45,14 @@ const prepareLocalChainFacadeKit = (
     'LocalChainFacade',
     {
       public: ChainFacadeI,
-      makeAccountWatcher: M.interface('undelegateWatcher', {
+      makeAccountWatcher: M.interface('makeAccountWatcher', {
         onFulfilled: M.call([M.remotable('LCA Account'), M.string()])
           .optional(M.arrayOf(M.undefined())) // empty context
+          .returns(VowShape),
+      }),
+      makeChildNodeWatcher: M.interface('makeChildNodeWatcher', {
+        onFulfilled: M.call(M.remotable())
+          .optional({ account: M.remotable(), address: M.string() }) // empty context
           .returns(M.remotable()),
       }),
     },
@@ -82,6 +88,22 @@ const prepareLocalChainFacadeKit = (
          * @param {[LocalChainAccount, ChainAddress['value']]} results
          */
         onFulfilled([account, address]) {
+          return watch(
+            E(storageNode).makeChildNode(address),
+            this.facets.makeChildNodeWatcher,
+            { account, address },
+          );
+        },
+      },
+      makeChildNodeWatcher: {
+        /**
+         * @param {Remote<StorageNode>} childNode
+         * @param {{
+         *   account: LocalChainAccount;
+         *   address: ChainAddress['value'];
+         * }} ctx
+         */
+        onFulfilled(childNode, { account, address }) {
           const { localChainInfo } = this.state;
           const { holder } = makeLocalOrchestrationAccountKit({
             account,
@@ -91,7 +113,7 @@ const prepareLocalChainFacadeKit = (
               chainId: localChainInfo.chainId,
             }),
             // FIXME storage path https://github.com/Agoric/agoric-sdk/issues/9066
-            storageNode,
+            storageNode: childNode,
           });
           return holder;
         },
diff --git a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-orchestration-account.js b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-orchestration-account.js
index 94e8d3a1368f..744db9cb2e29 100644
--- a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-orchestration-account.js
+++ b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-orchestration-account.js
@@ -140,6 +140,9 @@ export const prepareLocalOrchestrationAccountKit = (
       // must be the fully synchronous maker because the kit is held in durable state
       // @ts-expect-error XXX Patterns
       const topicKit = makeRecorderKit(storageNode, PUBLIC_TOPICS.account[1]);
+      // TODO determine what goes in vstorage https://github.com/Agoric/agoric-sdk/issues/9066
+      // TODO consider making this opt-out
+      void E(topicKit.recorder).write('');
 
       return { account, address, topicKit };
     },
diff --git a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/remote-chain-facade.js b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/remote-chain-facade.js
index 3b87240c39d0..7019da68c664 100644
--- a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/remote-chain-facade.js
+++ b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/remote-chain-facade.js
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ import { E } from '@endo/far';
 import { M } from '@endo/patterns';
 import { pickFacet } from '@agoric/vat-data';
 import { VowShape } from '@agoric/vow';
-import { ChainFacadeI } from '../typeGuards.js';
+import { ChainAddressShape, ChainFacadeI } from '../typeGuards.js';
 
 /**
  * @import {Zone} from '@agoric/base-zone';
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ const prepareRemoteChainFacadeKit = (
   {
     makeCosmosOrchestrationAccount,
     orchestration,
-    storageNode,
+    storageNode, // consider making an accounts childNode TODO #9066
     timer,
     vowTools: { asVow, watch },
   },
@@ -54,12 +54,20 @@ const prepareRemoteChainFacadeKit = (
       public: ChainFacadeI,
       makeAccountWatcher: M.interface('makeAccountWatcher', {
         onFulfilled: M.call(M.remotable())
-          .optional(M.string())
+          .optional(M.arrayOf(M.undefined())) // empty context
           .returns(VowShape),
       }),
-      getAddressWatcher: M.interface('makeAccountWatcher', {
+      getAddressWatcher: M.interface('getAddressWatcher', {
         onFulfilled: M.call(M.record())
-          .optional({ stakingDenom: M.string(), account: M.remotable() })
+          .optional(M.remotable())
+          .returns(VowShape),
+      }),
+      makeChildNodeWatcher: M.interface('makeChildNodeWatcher', {
+        onFulfilled: M.call(M.remotable())
+          .optional({
+            account: M.remotable(),
+            chainAddress: ChainAddressShape,
+          })
           .returns(M.remotable()),
       }),
     },
@@ -95,32 +103,55 @@ const prepareRemoteChainFacadeKit = (
                 connectionInfo.counterparty.connection_id,
               ),
               this.facets.makeAccountWatcher,
-              stakingDenom,
             );
           });
         },
       },
       makeAccountWatcher: {
         /**
+         * XXX Pipeline vows allVows and E
+         *
          * @param {IcaAccount} account
-         * @param {Denom} stakingDenom
          */
-        onFulfilled(account, stakingDenom) {
-          return watch(E(account).getAddress(), this.facets.getAddressWatcher, {
-            stakingDenom,
+        onFulfilled(account) {
+          return watch(
+            E(account).getAddress(),
+            this.facets.getAddressWatcher,
             account,
-          });
+          );
         },
       },
       getAddressWatcher: {
         /**
          * @param {ChainAddress} chainAddress
-         * @param {{ stakingDenom: Denom; account: IcaAccount }} ctx
+         * @param {IcaAccount} account
+         */
+        onFulfilled(chainAddress, account) {
+          return watch(
+            E(storageNode).makeChildNode(chainAddress.value),
+            this.facets.makeChildNodeWatcher,
+            { account, chainAddress },
+          );
+        },
+      },
+      makeChildNodeWatcher: {
+        /**
+         * @param {Remote<StorageNode>} childNode
+         * @param {{
+         *   account: IcaAccount;
+         *   chainAddress: ChainAddress;
+         * }} ctx
          */
-        onFulfilled(chainAddress, { account, stakingDenom }) {
+        onFulfilled(childNode, { account, chainAddress }) {
+          const { remoteChainInfo } = this.state;
+          const stakingDenom = remoteChainInfo.stakingTokens?.[0]?.denom;
+          if (!stakingDenom) {
+            throw Fail`chain info lacks staking denom`;
+          }
           return makeCosmosOrchestrationAccount(chainAddress, stakingDenom, {
             account,
-            storageNode,
+            // FIXME storage path https://github.com/Agoric/agoric-sdk/issues/9066
+            storageNode: childNode,
             // FIXME provide real ICQ connection
             // FIXME make Query Connection available via chain, not orchestrationAccount
             icqConnection: anyVal,